with marco rubio, i think going to terry branstead's birthday party in the caucus in iowa, i think the senator-- given the financial and political, organizational challenges involved it's almost imperative, dana, if you run, you begin this soon. >> and maybe start before four years out having to run for other offices and peggy, what goes through somebody's mind? what is the process that you think about, wow, you really could be president. that's a big leap and how, what's the process that you go through individually and then maybe with your family? >> well, yes, it's a big imaginatively-- to imagine yourself as president, i think the first thing you have to do right about now or even before now is think, do i have the right stuff? can i do this? do my spouse and my children, are they, a, people who, who can accept this and tolerate this and b, could they really accept it and tolerate it, meaning can they do what they think they can? it's such a grueling thing to run for president, you have to talk to yourself in a way about can i take constant media scrutiny, a constant pounding from t